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Copyrighted song lyrics

I'd like to post some traditional song lyrics as arranged by Huun Huur Tu in the liner notes to their latest CD. Would this be an unacceptable copyright violation? --Nisan 17:39, 6 March 2006 (PST)

Altai Sayan Tandy-Uula? Some of them are already here. For Kojamyk look at Tos. For Tandym look at Toorugtug taiga. Kongurai is Koŋgurej. Lyrics from traditional songs are not copyrighted. --Sborsody 18:29, 6 March 2006 (PST)

Wikipedia Language

Why aren't we making a Tuvan language area to Wikipedia? (ie tv.wikipedia.org)? There would still be lots of content for this site (lyrics, language lessons, lexicon). I'm sure lots of Tyva-Dyl speakers haven't heard of this site, but they could be ought translating Wikipedia articles. It seems to me that we ought to be more concerned with our community (Tuvan Enthusiasts).

There is no tyv.wikipedia.org yet because there haven't been found any interested native speakers yet. If you know of any we can go from there. --Sborsody 15:00, 28 April 2006 (PDT)

Copyright Clarification

Since there is no TyvaWiki:Copyright, I thought I'd better ask what the copyright status of TyvaWiki is. I see that you removed GPL or whatever, but I'm not sure where that leaves us. I think that means, since we haven't specificed to give away any rights, there we're fully copyrighted, right? Maybe there is some license at Creative Commons that could meet our requirements? Robert 23:39, 23 September 2006 (PDT)

Maybe call me old-school. When I started on the Internet, people weren't paranoid copyright nazis. Everything was for educational purposes. I guess we have the 'war' between proprietary and open source to blame for the disappearance of a more innocent time. Sorry for the little rant. :) One thing that worries me in running a wiki, specifically the MediaWiki software, is that our readers may assume that our content works the same way as it does on Wikipedia. I think it was a bad decision on my part to originally start with GPL. Our content isn't original work, like the majority of Wikipedia is. We have a lot of traditional lyrics which can't be copyrighted or licensed (although you could copyright the translations!). The Texts category texts are pulled from educational 'readers' on the Tyvan language. We can't claim copyright or licensing rights to that either. If you add some original content and would like to have a license or copyright info for it, I recommend stating so in the individual article. Maybe we could add a GPL category that contains the licensing information and add any article or image that we want licensed to it. In general though, I think of this wiki as 'for educational purposes' and would rather not get tied up in copyright paranoia. We could compose a TyvaWiki:Copyright page together that incorporates some of these things if you feel up to it. --Sborsody 09:18, 25 September 2006 (PDT)